List of US Universities for foreign medical students

 for uni of cincinnati, do we need step 1? do we get there?

were can i find application for case western uni and what r chances of getting there.

what about state uni of ohio??

please reply asap

Hi.. What are the pros and cons of trying for an elective in the UofToronto? Esp in Peds, considering SickKids (of the same Univ) is one of the good hospitals for Pedatrics. 

Is doing an elective there considered USCE??

Thanks

WHEN DO THEY STRAT PROCESSING APPLICATION FOR AN ACADEMIC YEAR AT NORTHSHORE?AND HOW EALRY SHUD 1 APPLY TO ATTAIN A SPOT?I AM ASKING THIS BECAUSE THEY R BOOKED TILL APRIL2010!!!

what is the best time to apply for electives/as in which months r the least busiest and AMG applications are the least?

http://www.einstein.yu.edu/registrar/page.aspx?ID=3890&ekmensel=412_submenu_2042_btnlink . this is link for electies at the above university. it requires step 1.

god bless u umar bhai :)

i had a doubt..

what does this mean"all core clerkships must be completed"

ALL clinical rotations in all dptmts

OR

one of the rotations in each core clerkship?

sir.

for application to yale,what shud be written under

1.no of patients seen in physical diagnosis/can we write nay no/

2.i don rem dates when i d taken hep n varicella shots...but my titres r psotive..so can i jus leave thst blank n attach blood titre reports/

3.my sop >25o words..is that ok?its arnd 1000words..its impossiblw to fit it in 250 words...

4.i dont have proof for tetanus vaccn..n they are not even asking for one..jus date they want &dose...i don rem what dose it was...what is it normally?

SUNY states...........
as step 1 n TOEFL scores as preapproval items.
pre approval required item that must be submitted.........at the same time mentioning 'if available' the registrar replied by just referring to this weblink. no answer to my query.
http://sls.downstate.edu/registrar/visiting/international/documents/Intl...
 
as for MSSM..........
the first page in this info book for IMGs lists that..check it out. abt TOEFL update
http://www.mssm.edu/students/handbook/electives/pdf/forvisit_info.pdf
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u didnt reply so i think this is the best place to add this update.........
U Wisconsin also needs sponsor in all depts except Psych..........i THINK(not sure) i read it on elective details catalog.
Rochester has now stringent TOEFL requirements like>100total and >25 almost in each section.
UCSF radio replied saying that they are  not accepting Int'l students till further policy meeting and decision.
tough luck for us......
anyways will add more info asap.
best wishes to all n me

Umar bhai plz guide me

I am doing my internship from indira gandhi medical college, nagpur, india. Ours is a Government Medical College with considerable repute in our state.

It happened so that 3 of my collegues had sent application to SUNY. But SUNY rejected their application stating that 'Instructional facility of your medical college cant be verified online'!! Well the name of our medical college even appears on the WHO list given in the new SUNY form itself! We mailed them regarding this and also other links of our college on the net.. But they are not replying at all. We kept mailing for almost 10 days but got no reply! When contacted on phone, they either directly disconnect or ask us to wait for valid response via mail... Even after telling that our mails arent being replied, they ask us to wait for mails. Should i completely leave hopes of SUNY??? Im trying at other places too but SUNY is d cheapest and best :(

Umar bhai i have many doubts. I am writing to name of the university and the doubt below it.writing in this format so that every1 is benefited if they have same queries.

1. NORTHSHORE -

The online application link for online application is not working. kindly check and please tell me where to look for it.

2.ROCHESTER -

 a.What is meant by repatriation insurance which is required by them?

 b.My deans letter mentions that i was a student of good standing in it.Do i need to get a separate letter or will the deans letter do?

 c.What is meant by completed conformation form of  J1/F1 visa? this is also required by this uni.

 d.The first line of deans letter, '   The student (will) (will not) be covered by basic ambulatory health care.  If not covered, the student must carry The University of Rochester’s health care at approximately $30.00 per month.  Malpractice insurance (does) (does not) cover the student while away from this school.  The student (will) (will not) pay tuition at this school during the extramural period.  Academic credit toward the M.D. degree (will) (will not) be awarded upon the receipt of a passing grade.  An evaluation of this elective (will) (will not) be required.'

I did not understand which options i should choose for all the options 'will or will not'? 

3.NIH -

 a.In the form in the state column they hav mentioned to write N.A for foreign students.should i write N.A in the postal code column too?

 b.We don't hav GPA nd grading in our college.they ask for that.what to mention?

Some information for students applying for electives -

1.If u have problems like the no. of copies of originals u have are limited u can get the copies attested from ur college official wit the seal of college office.and if ur getting ur transcript attested then u have to have ur college seal on every page of transcript.

2.For tufts they have mentioned in the form that step 1 scores be mentioned.when i mailed the E.C he replied me that step 1 is not mandatory. 

3.Direct link for cornell - http://med.cornell.edu/international/for_int_stu/index.html?name1=International+Health+Interest+Group&type1=2Active 

4.updated link for Northwestern - http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/AWOME/Visiting_Students

5.We all have doubts as to which time is the best to apply.i am using words from a universities website with slight modification.( hope this helps but remember this is just to help n as umar bhai said no one can tell when is the best time to take apply for electives.) -

a.Spaces are on a first-come, first served basis, and spots are limited (most of the places).

b.Visiting students are placed only after our University Students are scheduled.

c.Spaces in General Internal Medicine, Pediatrics, and Surgery are extremely limited, but sub-specialties have more availability(this is in northwestern)

d. Summer months are extremely full. Our acceptance rate for 2008-2009 was 70%(northwestern).so apply in winter or spring.

note- for this u have to know what months are winter and spring in U.S. i know the answer but i want u to find out.bcoz everything cannot be spoon fed.if even after searching u have doubts u can surely ask. :) 

e. To increase your chances of being placed, you should include the full amount of possible dates and list elective choices across multiple departments.

ALL THE BEST TO ALL . AND GOD BLESS UMAR BHAI.

One small request-those who have got selected by universities can mention in brief which all universities they applied for n which all were they selected in.This way we will get to know the general acceptance rates of various colleges.so less problems for our future applying friends.

thank u all..

 1. The following universities has stopped accepting students for this academic year 2009-2010

 a.Uni. of Massachusettes

 b.Uni of Connecticut

2. Many students complain that most E.C's dont respond to your Emails.But believe me most of them do and are friendly. the only thing is they get a lot of mails so u should know how to write a mail.The tips i am mentioning here are my views.(so if anything is wrong umar bhai kindly correct it) -

a.Start with Dear ........... 

b.Dont give your history there,they dont have time to read that.

c.Be short and to the point.

d.Be clear about your question.

e.And if u need clarifiction of  any info which is already on the website,dont forget to mention that u did not understand the info mentioned on website.If u dont mention this they will send u link to the same website which  is  waste of ur and their time.

f. Be polite when u mail them.Dont show that u are ordering them to respond.

Eg- i have seen students mailing in this way - 'i want to know is step 1 necessary? reply 'Yhis gives a bad impression.

the correct way may be- 'i would like to know whether step 1 is mandatory? kindly reply 

                                                 thanking u in anticipation.'

HOPE THE GUIDELINES HELP. 

ALL THE BEST TO ALL.

AND AS ALWAYS 'GOD BLESS U UMAR BHAI'

dear sir,

its very astonishing to know this site and find it very useful esp for people like me who have no much idea of how to get  there .but questions is how much financially should be sound to stay in US after passing steps with  good marks with 6 reaerch papers until get residency.if s.one is national of pakistani origin but  financially weak ,is it possible 2 get visa and stay in US with all above criteria .(USMLE step 1 &2 Ck with 97 and 7 papers papers in orthopedic surgery.

Dear Umar

1. Did they provide you with any help with housing in Bethesda or you had to make your own arrangements. If so, please advise me about accomodation there.
2. Also, what about LoRs? Do the attendings there write out LoRs for international students, given that its a premier research institute and we donot have much of a background of research in our home country? Would the elective prove to be fruitful as far as LoRs are concerned?
3. Is there anything else that has to be taken special care of at NIH?

Dear Umarbhai,

Thanks a million for being so kind as to start this blog!

Now, I have a very peculiar problem, which is one of the reasons why i am deferring my plans to appear for USMLE.

It may appear a bit ridiculous to you for me to ask this, but i have a very long beard and i am afraid the officials, examiners and the universities may reject my applications just on this basis. I also am not very keen on compromising on my convictions, and this is the dilemma i am in.

So have you had any such experience, or do you know whether they biased abt these issues.

Pleas help.

Thanks a lot.

Wish you a very happy diwali! 

bhai the jefferson website link has no info about electives.. i tried searching.. can u please look up and send me link please ... thank u very much... take care..

God bless u..  

 Umar bhai I have a few queries… please answer as many as possible …counting on u.

                                                                         1.Northwestern University-

                                           a.  In their health record form there is a Student ID no. What no. should we fill there?

                                           b. Will I be enrolled as half time or full time student.. which option I should select?

                                    2.Brown Alpert-

                                           a. In their form tere is a column called ‘title of clerkship’ … what shd I fill in there.

                                        Next columns are ‘speciality’ where they have mentioned in bracket eg medicine,surgery etc .

                                       and next column is of  ‘no. of weeks’.. so what shd I fill in column ‘title of clerkships’? 

                                    3. Suny downstate-

                                         a. the is a column wher they r askin start of medical school date n end date..

                                   I have taken extention of  internship so do I hav to mention tht?  And wht reason do I state if asked?

                                     4. Harvard –

                                          a. Standard length of time to complete MD program: ___________ years.

                                           What to fill in that space bhai..? MD program?                                                                                                                               Bhai sorry to post this post 3 times.. there was sme problem with the display of queries

bh

 bha

Dear Vaibhav

This is the link http://www.jefferson.edu/oies/ . Click on "Medical Students interested in rotations/electives". They will give you the registrar's e-mail and you have to send in a request. They will send you the application material. They are pretty fast. Also it is a tough task finding this page! It took me a lot of time to find it out!

Hope this helps

Sincerely,

-Purav

umar bhai,

thanks a lot for guidance through your website,

i have an cardiology elective in weill cornell,which is clashing with my subinternship in medicine in louisville by one week that is the wc elective ends on 12 th feb (it is a 2 wk + 2 wk elec,irregular dates) and louisville one starts on5th feb.i really want to do both electives,and dont want to cancel either ( i tried fr 3 mnths  to geta sponsor in louisville).wc ppl hav nothin else to offer.

is it possible for me to get a LOR in 3 weeks,seek permission frm da wc faculty and leave wc elec 1 wk before,would that reflect badly on my USCE.

please guide.

With warm regards umarbhai,

                                               I am in a dilemma. Of all the colleges that I applied so far from the list of your website I have been approved only at Tufts Medical Center, Boston in Feb,2010 and that too for cardiothoracicsugery subinternship. Now the dilemma is that I have got a field in surgery, that too not general surgery, not medicine (which i choiced first) but in cardiothoraic surgery and people say surgery is next to impossible for getting into a residency for a nongreencard img like me ( a fact which I was not so much aware of at the time I applied to electives in hurry and filled my choices in ), while at the same time I dont personally feel to reject the offer of SUBINTERNSHIP given the fact that its the only elective offer I have so far.So is it worth spending 2500$ for the tuition fee ( I do have financial constraints to look after) , how far it would help me in my future application in residency for surgery or even medicine (surgical elective for medicine!) and are there any other place left to apply for medical elective now considering that most of them are full for march 2010 when my internship ends.

                                             Please help me out.....

I do not knw where to start pls umar bhai help me..

I am having b1 b2 visa for 10 years and I am passing through internship in india..

I really want to do elective as my frnds over there told me that it contains lot imp.

but I dont knw how to start...

pls help me..........

does doing elective in a university hospital,other than NY(EMORY) count more or doing it in new york in a community hospital counts more for future residency in NY???

 Hi Umar bhai

1)I  applied 11 months advance of my elective start date in Yale. They denied me the seat saying "not enough space to accommodate you." This time they also started application processing late ( just 3 months in advance ) unlike last year. What could be the reason for my rejection? Should I ask them?

I called Tuft before applying, they said " unfortunately your college is not in our list, so dont waste your time and energy in applying". But my college is in WHO list.

2)I have applied in john hopkins too. Is their any way I can increase my chances of acceptance by contacting respective director through e-mail like you did? But they have written now in website. that please don't contact them personally. 

3) I even got denial from northwestern. I applied to all the weird non competitive electives in that. Now what should I do?  Denials from everywhere. Does doing electives in Canada counts? I mean other univs except Toronto, (Toronto application closed for 2010) 

 Hello Umarbhai,

                     First of all I would like to thank you for your master work, that has helped  the medical students all over the world. I have got a great guidance from you and your website. Thank you very much. Well, I have been accepted to do two months of electives in Mount Sinai School in Jan-Feb 2010. I would like to know if I can request for one more month over there...And if I can request, that I should do at the time of registration or after completing a month of elective or so..What is advisable from your viewpoint..Please let me know...

 Hello Bhai

i wanted to ask how did you apply to henry ford since you had mentioned that you were accepted there.they donot have a link to the visitng students,even when you click at the link provided above the harvard medical school page opens up.thankyou.

Must commend for the grear effort you have been putting in maintaining this portal. Kudos to the Mods.
I have an enquiry as well as an update regarding the info indicated against the Name of the colleges above.
Yale School of Medicine requires a Toefl Record. It does not specify the minimum score required. But it does say, "A record of your TOEFL scores or University of Cambridge ESOL scores if you are a non-native English speaker." amongst 9 other documents reqd. to apply. (medicine.yale.edu/globalhealth/international/requirements.html)
Coming to the enquiry, I would like to know the methodology of the compilation of the above said 47 colleges. The reason i ask the methodology is, i want to shortlist atleast 10 colleges to apply to. The list above pretty much includes all the big names that there are. But I was wondering if there might be a college which might not be a big name but would be the best option for me in terms of the schedule and speciality of the electives offered. What I am asking is:
1. Does the list above covers all the colleges which offer electives for IMGs? (If yes, then the questions below need not be answered.) Or are there more?
2. If there are more, Where do i look for them? ( I know this is a very broad question. But if there's not as definitive and precise list as the one you have complied, could you suggest a method to make one? I have already tried the rankings from grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools . Doesnt seem to be helping much.)
3. Ok here comes the cropper. What should really be my criteria of Short listing the list. Pls give this question the least weightage. As I am just double checking.
 
Thanks for your time and interest.
 
Ritin
 

Dear Umar Bhai, Thanks a lot for such an informative website.

Umar bhai, i got a TOEFL Score of 91 with 26 in speaking, 24 in writing, 22 in reading and 19 in listening.

Is this okay to apply for electives in USA. If not, should i give the TOEFL Again???

 hey umar bhai hi..

i wanted to know about scope of electives in north western university of chicago..

do u have any idea about it..

what are the fees

basically i am intern in india and wanted to know if it would make any difference if i did elective in IL state and not in NY

plz reply

Dear Umar bhai, thanks a lot for your reply regarding Henry Ford. But  could not get the email address of the faculty members. I tried figuring it out from what you had mentioned  under the "sponsor" heading. Its not working. I am unable to find their email address. Kindly help me out. I need your help.

Also i have a query regarding Johns Hopkins. I am unable t find out the email address of the faculty members here too. I went to myjhu.com but still couldn't find out their email id. Please help me out.and also what should i write in the mail which i would write to the faculty members. Kindly elaborate on that as i couldnt get a clear idea till now even after reading the electives columns many times.

Thank you. May god bless you for helping others. My best wishes are with you

I wanted to know that if any one has rotated in Cleveland clinic. Whats the procedure for it? I called in the elective coordinator and she said that they donot accept foreign medical students. Can any guide me of his/her experience?

   Thank you Umar bhai for your reply.

Can i get a elective in Cleaveland Clinic if a faculty member working in the same give me a waiver for USMLE Step 1???

i have a query. i am going through the process of application for 'usce' these days. i want to ask 2 things:

1. it has been mentioned that its personal choice abt where to apply but still there must be certain adv of applying to a particular place over others?? i mean how do i prioritize abt where to apply n where not? factors other than fee or place. just purely which univ better than other or in other words experienc or lor of which univ will be better than others. it'll be great if u can give some list on this basis. plss. thank in anticipation.

2. it has also been mentioned that applying to teaching hospitals is better. d list that u provide for img's- does that include both teaching n non teaching hospitals? if yes pls tel which ol are teaching hospitals. i really wanna land up at d ryt place.. plss help

  thanks alot!!

    i m a 3rd year medical student from India planning and preparing for GME in USA.a couple of days back,i searched this site which is like the oxygen for any medico planning for USA. thanks a million for making such a wonderful source and supporting the bigginers.

    would u pl let me know from wher can i get the complete list of top ranking universities. and am i supposed to search for medical schools or hospitals if i want to apply for visting electives.

waiting for ur prompt reply,

thanks a lot. 

mashallah you have done a great job and this site is very informative.

i have some questions,

i am from Pakistan and have done my MD from Kyrgyzistan we didn't have our house job there,

so i wanted to ask can i apply in any way in US

for residency , is it necessary to give step 1,2,3.

jazakallah.

Asalaam o alaikum.

univ of masachesuttes is saying that it will accept people from indian colleges which have tie up with it ... is it .. 

and in ur list above , are there colleges like that included .... dont all these colleges in the  list accept all people from india

Dear Dr.Umar Tariq,

i m resident of india and m currently doin my internshp which will be over in september...i want to do clerkship /elective in a good hospital/university...i hav not given any usmle step...pls help me out which hospital would be better for me to apply(without getting rejected) at this time...i wanna do elective before my internship ends...i hav b1 visa...please help me out...